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By Phil Urich (Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 10:58:45 AM EST) (all tags)

This is mainly just a link. I just figure that anyone who hasn't read anything about it already should learn about the kinds of thing that went on during the Republican National Convention. Didn't there used to be something like the "right to public assembly?" No, sorry, I apoligize, that was thoughtcrime on my part.

I figured this would be a good topic for my first journal posting (since I've essentially just been lurking here for awhile). Just all the things that have been going on in the states, especially recently with the Republican National Convention; like how things were manipulated so that U.S. soldiers could attend (warning: this link is to a kuro5hin article, this might be blasphemy on my part ;)

Well, that's all I've got for now.

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-1, Contains 2600 link by MohammedNiyalSayeed (6.00 / 1) #1 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 11:57:28 AM EST

17 year old pimply faced caucasian nerds crying about the sky falling isn't the same thing as "news". But I get the point, Republicans are Evil[tm], you don't like Evil Republicans[tm]. Hooray for you and your high horse!

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eh by tps12 (6.00 / 2) #2 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 12:09:11 PM EST

It's more "cops and jail are unpleasant" than "Republicans are evil." It's a bit whiny, but they have a good point...1800+ arrested, how many charged?

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I didn't read it by MohammedNiyalSayeed (3.00 / 0) #3 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 12:17:01 PM EST

And I won't. The URL sums it up. I know that crowd a little too well for my liking, and their politics and oppression polemics are painfully predictable. As for the arrests, ultimately, who cares? Those who got arrested, and those who think walking down the street carrying a sign is going to adjust anything, and that's pretty much it. Tying the policies implemented by NYPD to keep a city moving to some erosion of rights caused by the Evil Republicans[tm] is sloppy logic, and typical of the script kiddies referenced in the URL.

The wookie has no clothes. And is a likely pedophile.

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again by tps12 (6.00 / 3) #4 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 12:24:43 PM EST

It's not about Republicans. It's seriously only about the arrests. I mean, I don't care whether you read it or not, but your "sloppy logic" charge is completely unfounded.

I agree about the wookie, though...keep that thing away from my kids!

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I see the source of confusion by MohammedNiyalSayeed (5.00 / 1) #6 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 12:36:40 PM EST

My "republicans are evil" jibe was directed at the author of the diary, and pertain to the text as a whole, not the specific article at 2600. Which, sadly, I just read three pages of. I've been to jail, alone, and not charged with anything, and it's a lot worse than what those whiners experienced. At least they had friends there. But compared to mommy and daddy's basement, it was probably pretty uncomfortable for them. Regardless, until MI-5 does a cavity search on *them*, they're not getting any sympathy from me for having to stand around on a pier for a few hours.

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You can build the most elegant fountain in the world, but eventually a winged rat will be using it as a drinking bowl.
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More! by DesiredUsername (3.00 / 0) #7 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 12:48:31 PM EST

1) Person A underwent possibly illegal hardship
2) I underwent possibly illegal hardship that was worse
3) Therefore there is no need to see if and how much Person A's hardship was illegal

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Less. by greyrat (3.00 / 0) #9 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 12:54:14 PM EST

People are often exposed to hardship, 'legal' and 'illegal' (whatever you mean by that).
Here is a story of a person's exposure to hardship.
Yes, he experienced hardship. That's unfortunate. And something we all will probably experience at some point.

Don't get me started on 'wrong place, wrong time' or 'right to be there' angles. Everybody made the decisions they made. It happened. It was reported. Fin.
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s/need/interest/g by MohammedNiyalSayeed (6.00 / 1) #12 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 12:58:07 PM EST

Let me explain this to you: I know the 2600 crowd intimately. Do you? I've known them for upwards of 9 years now. Have you? I consider my inside perspective to give me an advantage in dismissing the potential interest I may or may not have in reading their drivel, partially because I know them, and partially because I know me, and have known me for 35 years.

So what was your point, then?

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'the 2600 crowd' by DesiredUsername (6.00 / 1) #17 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 02:19:56 PM EST

I guess I didn't realize that this was a story of a raid to their very own basements and not just a story that happened to be reported (or hosted by) them but about regular New Yorkers.

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Eric Corley is not a regular New Yorker. by MohammedNiyalSayeed (3.00 / 0) #21 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 04:12:54 PM EST

He's the self-righteous over-privileged son of well-to-do yard residents who has made a career of self-aggrandizement, and markets himself to maladjusted teens and pre-teens, clinging desparately to the idea that they're not just *weird*, they're *special*. Making vague associations with people he is in no way a peer of, he's managed to build a tiny little empire which prevents him from a) having to work, and b) having to deal with the humility of taking money from mommy and daddy. Having had in-depth person to person conversations with him, as well as countless wasted hours of IRC, I know enough about him to know that reading his socio-political self-martyring diatribe is, for me, a waste of time.

So, do you have something to add about him that maybe I'm overlooking, or are you just going to go the route of a snide, sarcastic ad hominem?

Oh, and in case you didn't know, Corley is the author of the piece in question, though he wrote it under his "hacker name".

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'ad hominem' by DesiredUsername (3.00 / 0) #26 Thu Sep 16, 2004 at 06:18:00 AM EST

I do not think that means what you think it means.

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Or perhaps I am not referring by MohammedNiyalSayeed (3.00 / 0) #27 Thu Sep 16, 2004 at 06:28:25 AM EST

to this particular thread, but rather another recent thread. Hard to say unless you're me, isn't it?

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I'm merely pointing out the irony by DesiredUsername (3.00 / 0) #28 Thu Sep 16, 2004 at 06:32:26 AM EST

of that word being in this post.

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Hilarious. by MohammedNiyalSayeed (3.00 / 0) #29 Thu Sep 16, 2004 at 06:39:48 AM EST

Also, in effect, your response to said comment was to choose option two, and deliver a snide ad hominem. Admittedly, you left out the sarcasm that time, but 666.7 isn't a bad batting average, is it?

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It still doesn't mean what you think it means by DesiredUsername (3.00 / 0) #30 Thu Sep 16, 2004 at 06:43:38 AM EST

Pointing out the logical flaws and contradictions in someone's reasoning isn't ad hominem.

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: Control-C, Control-C, Control-Z... by MohammedNiyalSayeed (6.00 / 1) #31 Thu Sep 16, 2004 at 06:48:43 AM EST

Can't... seem... to... break... loop...

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uh oh by tps12 (3.00 / 0) #32 Thu Sep 16, 2004 at 06:55:39 AM EST

This isn't some kind of Vlad-esque nightmare we don't want to know about, is it? Did he steal your ops?

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: Heh by MohammedNiyalSayeed (3.00 / 0) #33 Thu Sep 16, 2004 at 07:12:17 AM EST

The wookie isn't capable of stealing anyone's ops. And I have no long-standing beef with him, I just discount his ranting, because it's disingenuous and absurd.

I'll describe it as Bukowski might; I don't hate the wookie, I just feel better when he's not around.

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lol by alprazolam (3.00 / 0) #8 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 12:50:54 PM EST

typical republican reasoning.

"i don't like your message, so therefore i don't like you, and i'm not willing to consider any alternative."

brilliant stuff.

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Too bad I'm not a Republican by MohammedNiyalSayeed (6.00 / 1) #10 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 12:55:05 PM EST

Or your strawman reasoning would be spot-on. Keep up the good work.

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You can build the most elegant fountain in the world, but eventually a winged rat will be using it as a drinking bowl.
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I'll be a bit childish for a second and say: by Phil Urich (5.00 / 1) #19 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 02:41:12 PM EST

well, odd that you would be so quick to stomp on someone for doing what seems to be your favorite sport, namely jumping to conclusions ;)

okay, that's enough childishness for me. Back to our regularily scheduled unfunny misunderstandings.

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Everyone knows my favorite sport is by MohammedNiyalSayeed (5.66 / 3) #20 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 03:38:45 PM EST

breathing life into commentless diaries. You're welcome.

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You can build the most elegant fountain in the world, but eventually a winged rat will be using it as a drinking bowl.
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: oh, I am terribly sorry, I had you all wrong. by Phil Urich (3.00 / 0) #34 Thu Sep 16, 2004 at 11:31:34 PM EST

Thank you for your generosity :P

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says who? by alprazolam (3.00 / 0) #23 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 06:50:03 PM EST

if it looks like a rat and talks like a rat...

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Um. by greyrat (6.00 / 1) #11 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 12:56:38 PM EST

"I don't like whiners. 2600 is generally the haunt of whiners. Therefore I'm betting that this is a whiny article. Law of averages and all that."
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MNS IS A TYPICAL REPUBLICAN!!!111 by MohammedNiyalSayeed (4.50 / 2) #13 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 12:59:39 PM EST

Don't bother to look up the written records that negate that, stick to the automated dismissal!

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HEY!! BACK OFF!! by greyrat (5.00 / 2) #14 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 01:07:02 PM EST

You fucking Nazi! I'll think whatever fancy-pants elitist liberal thoughts about MNS that I want to and you can just keep your repressive conservative -- Oh, wait...
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ignore mns by ucblockhead (6.00 / 2) #15 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 01:39:17 PM EST

He's just a brownshirt in the bushitler army pretending to be a "libertarian" to put the faithful off their guard.
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: Hey, I'm just following orders by MohammedNiyalSayeed (6.00 / 1) #16 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 01:41:14 PM EST

It's all I'm capable of, really. I can't think for myself, so I do whatever my Zionist masters tell me to.

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You can build the most elegant fountain in the world, but eventually a winged rat will be using it as a drinking bowl.
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gee by alprazolam (3.00 / 0) #24 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 06:51:04 PM EST

automatic dismissal, i've never encountered such a thing before.

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: Don't cry by MohammedNiyalSayeed (3.00 / 0) #25 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 07:04:38 PM EST

It's just the Internet. It'll be ok.

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perhaps you misunderstand me by Phil Urich (3.00 / 0) #18 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 02:38:31 PM EST

though I have to admit, you do seem like the kind of person willing to quickly jump to conclusions, but I'm honestly not part of the "repulicans are evil" crowd. To paraphrase an old cliché: some of my best friends are Repulicans.

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Speaking of sloppy logic by DesiredUsername (5.80 / 5) #5 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 12:33:26 PM EST

1) I have read sloppily logical things before
2) This webpage is hosted on the same site as some of those things
3) Therefore I know the entire story already
4) And it is all wrong

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Dear sir, by 606 (5.33 / 3) #22 Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 04:13:55 PM EST

I think maybe you thought you were commenting on Kuro5hin. The interface certainly looks the same, so I can understand the confusion. But anyway, at this site we try to read the articles before we comment. Also, we don't troll here.

Sincerely,

The politeness avenger.

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